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- From: bizzetti@mbox.vol.it (Fabio Bizzetti)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.games,alt.sys.amiga.demos,in,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: AB3D II beats Quake....
- Date: 19 Mar 1996 22:43:20 GMT
- Organization: Video On Line
- Distribution: world
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- >>>ú800 (800 pounds) would be better for an `030. And make that 2Mb Fast Ram
- >>>- two more Mbs is very nice, but not essential for the `base` Amiga (if
- >>>only!).
- >>ú800!! Jesus!
- >>I wouldn't be wanting to pay more than ú600 for the first system. Christ, I
- >>could buy a Pentium system for ú800!
-
- >I agree with you - well, i would buy an Amiga if i had the choice but then
- >again I'm an Amiga addict :-)
- >800ú is FAR to high!
- >500ú with 4 MB, 030/40mhz and a harddrive (240Mb or more!) would be pretty
- >nice.
-
- It seems that the next 680x0 Amiga (project Walker) will give, for 600ú,
- 2Mb ChipRam, 68EC030 40Mhz (good as much as full 68030 IMHO) with 4Mb FastRam,
- CDROM x4 speed as standard (FINALLY!), HardDisk, fast serial port, fast
- parallel port, probably MIDI port, OS 3.2, and it'll be cheaply expandable
- thanks to its local-bus, allowing PCI, ZorroIII/IV slots very easily, till
- making it become a tower case (just adding a piece in the middle(!))
-
- From the photos I've seen, it should be possible to use it also as radio-clock
- and vacuum-cleaner ;-)
-
- It's a very nice Amiga for sure though, with a look that could be discussed,
- but is surely original enough to attract the attention of "not computer expert"
- people.
-
- What sucks is the AGA chipset, I hope they'll give dualport chipram: they would
- understand after how wise this choice will have been, even more than the CdRom.
-
- What sucks++ is that AT is not *capable* to make innovative custom chips
- (they can say it's not possible, but I know that every console producer makes
- custom chips). So, being not capable to make them, the PowerAmiga is destined
- to be another PC clone, with just a different CPU (PowerPC: btw, I bought a
- book and studied it, and I'm very disappointed: IT SUCKS, all the other RISCs
- are better, starting from the old and cheap Transputers) and a different OS.
- But for me, a games maker, the OS is not important for the final software.
-
- It seems that AT said << *everything* must be done with the OS, direct hardware
- programming will not be allowed anymore >>. I never expected such an unwise
- (I dont say "silly", because I must think they just aren't capable to make
- better, for budget problems) decision about the new Amiga management.
- I recall A1200 and CD32 market died because some "C++ programmers" or managers
- didn't allow direct hardware programming. Cool ignorant people.
-
- 8(((
-
- If AT wants this shit from PowerAmiga, then IMHO the *last* Amiga will be the
- 680x0 and AGA based ones. The PowerAmiga will be a PC with just another CPU.
- I bought the PowerPC book (105 US dollars!) because I was enthusiast to code
- for the PowerAmiga, now I got the sensation it'll be like programming a PC.
-
- The A1000/A500 and A2000 were dream computers IMO because of their custom
- chips and architecture, not because of the lame 1.0/1.1/1.2 OS.
- I'll keep my 68060 Amiga for *development*, I'll create and test algorithms,
- graphics, sounds on my Amiga, but if this PowerAmiga is that anonymous
- machine, I'll support only old Amigas and, before I support a PowerAmiga with
- no market, I'll prefer to support PC; the same thing with a different CPU and
- an alive market.
-
- Bah.. :((((((((((((((((
- We should have gathered 10000 people through Internet, and bought the Commodore
- by ourselves. ;-<
-
-
- I never believed that I would have thought this, but now I must judge real
- facts: the PowerAmiga will born with much more *bad* problems than any quality.
-
- Who will support such an anonymous abort? If I wanna program the PC hardware,
- I program the PC. The PowerPC CPU *sucks bigtime*, if I've to learn another
- CPU, why should I learn PowerPC and not 80x86 that gives some food back?
-
- I miss the true Amigas.
-
- For being "idealist", I wasted more than 1 year of fulltime work on the Amiga,
- to make my first commercial game and live with it, and I got only 1549 UKP,
- still believing in what I was doing, to live the hunger (I've to mantain
- myself, I am not lucky as many students) in sight of a future for my Amiga.
-
-
- Well,from the deepest of my heart: FUCK OFF AT, you made it all become useless.
-
-
- >-- Rustybrain -- Sigop AMIGAvsPC at Global Issue (tlf.56599956) CALL NOW!
- >#|-T&T-Tags-|# "Den gruoppvekkende kosmo-kablangen!"
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- | Stop that fucking imperialist embargo against Cuba. |
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- | Fabio "Maverick" Bizzetti - bizzetti@mbox.vol.it - Maverick* at IRC |
- | The maker of "CyberMan" and "Virtual Karting" |
- | working on "Virtual Rally" and "StarFighter", the 3D game that will |
- | bring the Amiga to the top |
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